CNN’s Don Lemon invited Pamela Taylor, a woman who lives on the border near Brownsville, Texas and who had previously stated she can actually see illegals jumping from one side of the fence to the other, to discuss the issue under President Trump.

Taylor once made made the statement that she didn’t think the wall was a great idea for the mere fact that the wall she is used to simply doesn’t work. Don Lemon jumped on this statements, and invited the woman on his show for a segment with the impression that she would be on his side.

The shock was apparent when she told him everything he didn’t want to hear.

Don started off by attempting to sway her answer to the left:

“That’s been the conventional wisdom from a lot of people that if you have a 20-foot wall that there’s a 21-foot ladder that can help them get over it. But your house is right there on the border. You can actually watch undocumented immigrants cross into the country from your home,” explained Don Lemon.

 “According to just released Customs and Border Protection numbers, illegal southwest border crossings were down by 40 percent last month. Have you noticed a difference?”

“I believe President Trump is making a difference already!,” replied Taylor.

“Basically, it was a constant flow of people coming over. Not ones and twos, but by twenties and thirties. Now, we actually get a good night’s sleep every once in a while. We don’t have any interference. Of course, I can’t speak for the Border Patrol. They probably are picking people up, but in such large quantities,” explained Taylor.